Monday, May 19, 2008

Due 6/13

Read chapter 1, choose two of the activities on pages 22-27 respond with separate postings.
ii. Reply to two other people’s posts.

62 comments:

Mr. Holt said...

Now it's going to get more difficult. Don't forget to title your posting, post early, and reply to other postings (as I did in the previous weeks' posts). Also, some of us lost points for not proof reading, be careful.

Stephanie said...

INCLUDING WOMEN IN THE DRAFT
Stephanie Floyd (PG 22)

THOUGHTS-
The author starts by listing facts about the past and the military draft. The reader can put together pretty quickly that the author thinks it isn’t fair that only men are drafted for the military, and by reading the historical facts it makes the reader want to believe it too. The author says it isn’t fair that one sex has to fight for the rights of both. That’s a pretty bold statement, I think. Even if I don’t necessarily think it is accurate in relation this topic, it still makes me think, “Yeah, you know what? He’s right”. In any situation no one ever wants to do all the work when there is someone else there that could help. The author is relating to his readers. When he explains how Israeli women are drafted into their militaries, it creates a kind of “if they do it, then we should too” tone. By the end of this editorial he had me in favor of his opinion just by the raw logic he had on the subject. It took me a couple more read-through’s in order to really determine if I agreed with the author or not.

RESPONSE TO EDITORIAL-
One of the key characteristics that the United States of America prides itself on is patriotism. Every American can say without a doubt that they are proud of who they are and where they reside. Because of this patriotism it would be thought that every person, male or female, would drop everything instantly in order to protect his or her country. However, it is not logical to think that every single person can just stop everything in order to fight.
It makes sense that the draft is mandatory only for men and it’s a perfectly sensible decision. The fact that women volunteer to be in the military shows a strong sense of patriotism anyway. They are not being forced into combat; these women join because they want to fight for their country, so it’s safe to assume that most of them would not have pregnancy at the top of their priority lists. If it was made mandatory for women to be in the draft then, yes, the military would have to check and make sure pregnancy and families would not be an issue. This alone would be very time consuming and a tad unnecessary considering the women who are ready for the military will have already volunteered, and because of the vast amount of men to choose from.
I believe it’s better to leave the armed forces a place where women volunteer to serve. That way it is on them to understand the circumstances they are getting into. It’s not as though American women aren’t interested in helping their country, but rather that by having families at their homes away from war it’s easier to ensure the safety of the children that the soldiers are fighting for in the first place. Every person, both male and female, is ready to devote their services in order to protect the U.S. However, military is not the only way that one can show his or her devotion to the country.

Stephanie said...

Stephanie Floyd: PG 26

Persona-
*Each college reveals itself as successful. The first letter (Franklin) reveals it has a “top quality education.” The second, (Arizona), says it has “95 undergraduate majors, many of which are recognized as the finest in the nation.”
*Franklin’s letter seems a little more fun, mentioning its “excellent shopping, cultural, and entertainment options.” Arizona appears a bit more grade-oriented, mentioning its “outstanding students” and that its “1999 freshman class boasted a grade point average of 3.36 and included 132 National Merit Scholars.”


Appeals-
*Franklin opens its letter by listing well known and successful people that have graduated from the school-“the inventor of Doritos snack chip, the director of the classic movie The Sound of Music, and the founder of the Save the Children Foundation…” By listing those people it makes a college-bound student want to apply to Franklin simply because of the people that have graduated there.
*Arizona appeals to its readers a bit differently and says, “Think about what you want from your college experience.” Then it goes on to suggest looking at the university because it will obviously have what you want, or so they want you to think.
*Both colleges enunciate their inexpensive tuition. “Franklin has been consistently recognized as a ‘best buy’” and Arizona also says they aren't expensive with the “The Student Guide to America’s Best College Buys has recognized ASU’s combination of academic quality and affordable price as one of the 100 best buys in the USA” bullet.



Both colleges have a specific way to hook a reader. Franklin wants to convince you that everything they have is what you want and you can be successful like many others have been after going there. Arizona wants to convince you that they have everything you want and your success will help you to prosper in an "outstanding career."

Gregorus said...

Greg Baugher
Pages 26-27

Part I -Characterize Persona

Franklin College's letter gives me the impression that the writer knows college is about grades, but also knows that having fun is important to students as well. I like how the writer assumes the reader is applying to colleges but not much else. That leaves a lot of room to showcase Franklin College in a positive light.
Arizona State presents themselves very professionally. Its letter states that it is a top school, and the writer presents numbers and facts to reinforce that idea. This shows that the writer knows what he or she is talking about, and that they can be trusted on this subject.

Part II - Describe Appeals

Franklin College's letter appears to appeal to a wide range of students. It starts by listing three noteworthy alumni, which gives the impression that Franklin has graduated people who have gone on to do great things. It also appeals to students by saying that it has a caring staff, and wonderful education programs. Then, it goes on to read that it is near Indianapolis, which might grab the attention of students thinking about location of what college they want to attend. The letter also mentions that there are a wide range of extra-curiccular activities and sports available to students.
On the other hand, Arizona State's letter appeals to a more academically oriented student. They list of statistics and numbers which show that the students there are some of the best from around the country. They cite their 1999 freshman class as having a 3.36 grade point average in high school. Although this could lead the reader to believe that Arizona State only wants top notch students, which may discourage those who didn't perform exceptionally during high school.
However, both colleges make an appeal to everyone when talking about cost. Both colleges say they are recognized as best buys and top ranking schools in price value. I think this is the most important appeal, because cost does play a considerable role in everything people do, especially when choosing something like a college.

TessTheTerrific said...

Tess Simms
Page 26 & 27

Franlkin College-
The writer for Franklin approaches the reader as a caring and welcoming person. He or she emphasizes that the college is a very homey, caring, one happy family sort of place. This atmosphere will appeal to fresh out of highschool students who may be intimidated by their first experiance in "the real world." The idea of "small classes, a faculty that loves teaching" and "a warm and friendly campus," along with the college being located near Indianapolis, are all things that will help to grab hold of college hunting students.
Franklin College uses benefits such as the affordable price, nice campus, high quality education and multiple carreer opportunities to lure in students, but ASU also offers these three advantages. To add on, Franklin College mentions it's successful graduates, different programs, athletics and extracurricular activities to appeal to the searhing youth.

Arizona State University-
Arizona's writer appears more professional and to the point. He or she speaks directly to the reader and captures the reader's attention by saying "Think about what YOU want from your college experiance," which shows that the writer believes he or she knows what is important to rising college students.
Arizona State emphasizes it's high GPA, many fine undergraduate majors and the four advantages mentioned previously (affordable price, nice campus and carreer options) to entice potential students.

Both colleges use very appealing methods and opportunities. While Frankling College is more welcoming, ASU appears more academically focused, which i believe may be more beneficial when it comes down to a student choosing his or her college. I also believe that it is important to note that both colleges did use the affordable price, nice campus, high quality education and multiple carreer opportunities to attract students. This proves that both colleges know what things are most important to searching scholars.

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TessTheTerrific said...

Gregorus,

You seem to have really understood the concept of what persona is. You analyzed the letters well and responded well too. You said, "This shows that the writer knows what he or she is talking about, and that they can be trusted on this subject." and i believe that you have done the same thing.
You noticed how Franklin appealed to different types of students, which i failed to do. *Kudos to you* I have to mention that you also have a very nice word choice.
You did only mention one of the few things that both colleges "make an appeal to," but i believe you're right in saying that it is probably the most important.
Very nicely done Gregorus!

Gregorus said...

I really liked your response to the article. I totally agree with you in the point that women are needed here to keep families together and things like that. I also thought your last sentence was a great way to end this response. I also like how you italicized the "her" in the last sentence; that was very clever. All in all, I think you did a fantastic job on this activity.

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Shelby said...

Shelby Mason (Pg. 26)

-Franklin College, like Arizona State University (ASU), reveals itself as a very successful and affordable college. ASU and Franklin alike wish for the reader to believe that their college has what they want.

The Persona:

-Franklin College goes about setting its persona by masking themselves in "excellent shopping, cultural, and entertainment options" along with being "recognized as a 'best buy'". These are aspects that could serperate two very good colleges and Franklin College clearly recognizes that.
-ASU takes another angle when creating their persona. This university clearly puts the emphasis on grades and wants the students to feel the same. They approach the persona with comments such as "boasted a high school grade point average of 3.36 and included 132 National Merit Scholars". While this could intimidate some canidates, it will seperate the hard workers from the college slackers.

The Appeals:

-As I stated before, both colleges want to be recognized as the college of your dreams. They appeal through cost, quality and, in Franklin College's case, entertainment.
-Franklin College wants to appeal to the young adults need for a good time at a low cost. They make it known that along with their "top-quality education" which comes at an "affordable price", they are also very close to entertainment in a "small-town atmosphere". Franklin College also appeals through alumni who became well-known and very successful people. That hooks the college canidate because they want to be just as successful and feel that by going to Franklin they will have that opportunity.
-ASU appeals through quality and price. They make known their "95 undergraduate majors" and recognition in "The Student Guide to America's Best College Buys". They want students who want to work. This unversity makes it very clear that wanting to learn is of upmost importance. After reading this, the college canidate will feel that by going to ASU they will recieve the highest education and "outstanding career and graduate study opportunites".

Stephanie said...

In response to the PG 26 Assignment-
Shelby,
I think you grasped the persona of each college well and that most of the appeals you listed were accurate. However, I think the "They want students who want to work" comment (which you wrote underneath appeals) belongs more in the persona category than anything else.
On the other hand, I suppose you could argue that hard work is an appeal for hard working students...but I would still say keep it in the persona category.
Besides that and a few indiscriminate typos I think you did a fine job!
:)

Danny said...

Danny Holland
Pages 22-23
Including Women In The Draft

The Statement Analyzed-

In this passage, an anonymous woman encourages America to include women in the draft alongside men. This woman, displaying herself as a feminist, or someone who believes that women's rights should be equal to men's, addresses the audience through patriotic beliefs and America's dream of equal gender rights. She addresses the subject as if America is falling behind other countries in the race for equality, giving examples such as Israel's mandatory armed forces servitude. She appeals to the audience as though women and men should be treated equally, despite many differences that divide genders. The woman believes that both men and women have a role to play in the military.

Response-

Dear anonymous woman,

I read your statement about the reasons why women should be included in the draft along with men. I believe that a lot of your reasons for including women in the draft are very reasonable, especially the fact about how women can perform military tasks, even if they are separate from men. You are also right about how many other countries are doing it, so it may be in our best interest in the future to consider this change.
There are however, parts of your statement which I do not agree with. For example, the reason many other countries make it mandatory for both sexes to join the armed forces or conscript to the military is because their country is usually under some form of war turmoil, or the borders of the country are not as secure as the country believes that they should be. I do not believe that women in the draft are really needed at this time of our country's age. I believe that even though the military is a major part of our country, other aspects of our country should be considered as well. When you said that women could do their part in the military, even if it is different from men's, it really makes you think why women weren't put in the draft to begin with. Women are naturally good homemakers, teachers, and caretakers for children. It would be unfair to the children if the nurturing care which he or she calls their mother is fighting a war. Women keep this country running with supplies and a patriotic generation of youth while the men are defending our great country. In some ways that is the women's job during times of war.
Just because women aren't in the draft doesn't mean that they are any less important than the men during times of war, and you may be right about how women could do certain tasks in the military as well, but I believe that women can serve their country in many other ways besides being drafted into the military.

-Sincerely,

Danny Holland

Shelby said...

Shelby Mason (Pg. 22)

The Persona and Appeals:

The author begins his article with common slogans that many people hear everyday, which draws the reader in from the start. He uses short, to-the-point statements and you immeadiately get his less-than-happy vibe. He comes off as a male who clearly hates double standards. He feels that what is good for one is good for all. He tells of the history behind drafting and by his blatant comments with a little history to back them up, you begin to agree with him. His comments are convincing because he throws 'country pride' in our face. He wants us to feel guilty about not seeing his point earlier and not recognizing it ourselves. He is angry and by the end of the article, so are you. He is discussing a topic which, in general, is a touchy subject. The men vs. women debate is not new as he explains and will probably never be settled. When he puts a little fact behind a personal opinion it is easy to think that you feel the same way, and he knows that. He appeals through that.

The Reply:

In our country we have fought for years over the double standards placed between men and women. Some men are angry because 'women have it easier' and some women are angry because 'men have more rights'. I believe it will never end. I also believe that what is good for one is not good for all. Not just between men and women but just purely between people. Everyone is different for a reason. I do not think women should be made to put their name on a list to be called to war unless they choose to, nor do I feel men should have to either. My father served in the Marine Corps for 21 years and after going through it, I believe unless you want to and choose to join, who has the right to put you through all that pain? No one. The armed forces, any of them, are a big commitment. War is a life-changing thing. Why does one person have the right to say that YOU have to change everything while they sit back in the states? I dont believe that they do. The military is a choice, a choice everyone should consider. It is a good thing to love your country enough to defend it. What good are you at defending if you don't want to be there? Everyone is different. Not everyone can just pack up and leave their family. No one should be forced to. No one should be able to choose someone else's destiny. You should choose and only you.

Mr. Holt said...

Gregorus and all: remember to address your responses to the correct person directly. I don't know who "you" is.

Mr. Holt said...

In response to all who chose the page 22, women in the draft, activity: Does anyone see how this could not only be a feminist argument, but also a pacifist argument as well? In other words, how could the argument that women need to be added to the draft be an argument against a draft in general?

Gregorus said...

Stephanie,

My response was meant towards your post. Your name didn't come with the rest of the response. Sorry about that.

Danny said...

Shelby,

Your response to the activity on page 22 was very informative and persuasive. Well done.
It seems like, however, the gender of the writer can be debated. I chose to respond to the article as if a woman wrote it, while you decided to respond to the article as if a man wrote it. The gender was never specified, but if you think about it, it really could be either.
On your side, many men believe it isn't fair that only men should be drafted in the war and that both sexes should be. On my side, however, many women in the US believe that all people, both men and women, should have equal rights as well as responsibilities. Many of the points that the writer emphasized were points that either gender could say.
Not knowing which one of us was right really shows the different views of this article. After reading your response, I realized many aspects of the article I didn't notice first-hand. Thank you for a different point of view of the article.

-Danny

Jenny Wheeler said...

Jenny Wheeler
(PG 22)

Persona and Appeals-

Which is better, women or men, has been a heavily discussed topic for a long time. The author is trying to equal their rights with the men in the army. This author believes that useful manpower is going to waste even though there is plenty of willing women ready to give there all for their country. The author argued that women in other countries like Isreal are being drafted into their armies, and argues that we should follow suit or fall behind. Even though this might be a true statement, it might only be a necessity for that country according to what their current condition is like. The author also argued that even if women couldn't be used on the battle field, they could be used in less physical jobs. This author argued that both men and women have a purpose and job to serve for thier country.

Response-

I fully respect women having the same rights as men, and I always have. I also respect that the draft was created for a reason. I believe that the draft for men should be mandatory and that women can volunteer freely. Women sometimes have more to loose, or should I say take care of. I know that the loss for both men and women can be equal in these situations, and I don't want to praise one situation as being better or worse than the other. I don't believe however that a mans capabilities are more needed than a womens. Combat is not the only job in war. The military is made of other jobs that work as a team to succeed.
Also, women are usually the caretakers of the home. What do you do when the mother or wife is away at war? Would that be fair to the young children growing up? This can be the same for the father figure in the household too.
Women have the same amount of right to fight in the war as men do. However, they could do many other things to serve their country that doesn't involve being drafted. If inlisting in the army is what is most important to them, than they should go for it.

Jenny Wheeler said...

Danny,

Not only was your post informative, but I had fun reading yours too. I think you really understood what the anonymous author was trying to get across to us. In the response you wrote back to the author, it feels like you took into consideraton her current position. All in all you did a great job!

Cortney said...

Including Women In The Draft
Cortney Berry (p. 22)

Persona

The writer of the draft editorial is thoughtfully trying to weigh two sides of an argument, and presents the readers with information that indicates that although he is aware that there are two sides to it, his argument is clearly stronger, and that by including their weaker arguments, he will be able to showcase the strengths of his own. His voice seems to indicate that he knows what arguments the reader will have in response to his suggestions, and that he has given thought to these arguments, and may even agree with some of them, but that his conclusions are clearly more correct.

Response

I agree with the writer when he suggests that if the military would revise itself to develop a system that made it mandatory for each citizen of the United States to serve in some capacity, it would remove the necessity of drafting men (only) in times of war. The draft would, in effect, become obsolete, as the United States becomes more progressive by enforcing a utilitarian policy. His assertion that equality is closer now than ever, and that women have the capabilities necessary to enlist in different areas of the armed forces is correct. This is supported by the examples he cites, including the mandatory enlistment required by all Israeli citizens, including women. The armed forces are well trained in determining the strengths and weaknesses of its members, and would develop policies to accommodate all situations, including pregnancies and other health concerns. In conclusion, I feel that the writer is suggesting that it is time for the United States to identify that it is using a flawed system by forcing the drafting of just men. By doing so, it is being unfair to both sexes, as thousands of women that have voluntarily joined the Armed Forces have proven that this is an institution that all United States citizens are able to better with their participation.

-Cortney Berry

Stephanie said...

In response to your PG 22 assignment-
Danny,
I think that the author was an anonymous male, not female. I interpreted the letter to have been written by a disgruntled man who was tired of having to do “all the work”, and by that I mean the men having to fight in wars while the women have a choice. In the author’s letter he (possibly she) stated that “running out of manpower at a crucial point in a war would be disastrous”. I can tell you that if I, as a woman, was writing this letter, I probably wouldn’t use “manpower” as my word of choice. Maybe just power or I’d probably just say “running out of people willing to fight”…something to that effect, but not manpower.
Besides that I think the author of the letter portrays a “if I have to help, then so do you” kind of attitude. And all in all, I don’t think the letter would have given off this vibe if it was written by a woman.

Jenny Wheeler said...

Jenny Wheeler
(PG 26-27)

Persona:

*Franklin College prides itself for "producing stars" like inventors and writers. Franklin tries to high standards for education even though they are a small school.
*Arizona State also prides itself on its high quality education. They also boasted that they were "12th best among all universities in the USA".

Appeals:

*Franklin tried to appeal to both male and female by boasting "outstanding athletics" and "excellent shopping, cultural, and entertainment options." They also boasted "top-quality education at an affordable price".
*Arizona boasted a beautiful campus in the Valley if the Sun. Arizona also brags that with a combination of academic quality and affordable price, they are recognized as one of 100 best buys in the USA.

Both colleges are trying to persuade you that they have everything that you need in order to have the full college experience and be a successful student.

Jenny Wheeler said...

Shelby,

I think you did a good job recognizing the persona and responding the author in the women in the draft activity. Overall I enjoyed reading your post and you did a good job!

Shelby said...

Stephanie (Pg. 22),

I completely agree with your thoughts on how the author appealed to the audience. My only comment on it would be that it was a little informal. Other than that, it was great. Your reply to this article was very amazing. You had a great foundation and it flowed wonderfully. I agree with your point that the military is not the only way to show devotion. Overall, it was a great job. I didn't find any typos. Good job!!

-Shelby

Shelby said...

Tess (Pg. 26)

Your description of Franklin College was very good and in depth. You seemed to have grabbed all of the aspects of the letter. The ASU description was not as in depth though. I do understand that the letter had less to offer for a descriptive purpose, but digging deeper next time would be beneficial. You grabbed the key concepts of both letters though which is very good. Overall, minus a few typos, you grasped the rhetoric of the letters very nicely. Good Job!!!

-Shelby

Shelby said...

Mr. Holt

After reading your comment on the 'Women in the Draft' activity I felt compelled to reply. I do see how it can be a pacifist arguement, and I agree that no draft is needed. I tried to convey that in my reply to the editorial and I was wondering if you think that failed to come across.

-Shelby

Danny said...

Danny Holland
Pg. 26

Persona:
Franklin College's persona is very personal. The way that they wrote their solicitation gave the message to the reader, "We want you here and this is why." They carefully pinpointed many issues that students would normally have at a college that would not affect them at Franklin, such as "caring professors", "small classes", and a "family-like" campus. They want to display a persona of fun as well as academic achievement and knowledge.
Arizona State University's persona is more "typical college" but a step higher and with more quality. Instead of naming specific graduates who became renowned from their college, ASU revealed positive statistics such as a 3.36 average GPA for high school, and 132 National Merit scholars. This persona may intimidate some, but it might drive others to want to go here because they know "the statistics" say that they will be successful.

Appeal:
Both Franklin and ASU appeal to students looking for a quality education without putting a dent in their wallet. They both want the audience to know that their education is the finest, through specific examples of famous inventors and founders(Franklin) or positive statistics of achievement(ASU).
Franklin appeals to the reader in a more personal and an "I would like to get to know you" kind of way. They ensure the reader that they will be successful at Franklin by specifically naming renowned alumni such as the person who invented Doritos, and the man who directed "The Sound of Music." This may be more important to the reader than just numbers and statistics. The reader knows that if they go to this school, not only will their experience be great with a small-town campus and close access to the city, but that their need for a job will be secured through many internship programs that are available. This type of support as well as caring professors appeals to the reader in a very positive way. Franklin appeals to those that want a great education as well as having fun.
ASU appeals to the reader as an opportunity to be part of an enormous body of talented and knowledge-hungry students as well as being able to concentrate in a "beautiful campus combining desert and tropical landscape." This solicitation appeals to the reader as a serious campus where learning and achieving are top priority. They also want the reader to know that they aren't icing the cake with vague descriptions like "small classes"; they gave specific data. This may be important to some students when making the decision on which colleges they should apply to.

In general, these two colleges are considered "best buys" and terrific centers to learn in. Something that needs to be realized is that the needs of someone looking for a college differs from person to person. Some do not feel comfortable at a large campus and would rather go to Franklin, while others want the "real" college life and be alongside many others who want to achieve as much as they do, which they would find at ASU. Everyone is different and the differing personae found in these two college descriptions could really help a student make the right choice of school.

Cortney said...

Cortney Berry
(p. 26)

Persona-Franklin College

The persona of the Franklin College writer is that of a light-hearted, warm and inviting host. Although he emphasizes the “fun factor” of Franklin College, he also makes note of the academic successes of the alumni. The voice of the writer is friendly and inviting.

Persona-Arizona State University

The persona of the Arizona State University writer is forceful and persuasive. He places a great deal of emphasis on the academic opportunities that are available at the college, and encourages the reader to consider enrolling there because it is the reader’s choice. He uses hard facts and statistics to enforce his views.

Appeal-Franklin College

Franklin College immediately appeals to the reader because of the emphasis that is placed on the “small town feel”. It also makes the reader feel that if hugely successful people like the inventor of the Doritos snack chip, and the director of the movie The Sound of Music can graduate from a small college and then go on to such enormous accomplishments, then so can the reader. The reader feels that by attending Franklin College he will be able to avoid the anxiety of the new college experience because he will be accepted by teachers and students from the very beginning. He goes on to explain how the town “with convenient access to metropolitan Indianapolis” would allow the reader the options of “shopping, cultural and entertainment” experiences. The reader can imagine themselves fitting in to the small campus structure, yet also being a part of a metropolitan community. This allows the reader to capture the best of both worlds.

Appeal-Arizona State University

Arizona State University places immediate emphasis on the fact that the choices are that of the reader. The reader is encouraged to explore the 95 available undergraduate majors, and to begin his college career at a university that is both beautiful and academically acclaimed. He uses hard facts to highlight the outstanding GPA and scholarships of the students that are enrolled there, making the reader want to belong to a “select” group of intellectuals.

Cortney said...

Response to Danny

Danny,

I have to disagree with almost everything that you posted about the Women in the Draft editorial. I did not feel that the writer was a “feminist”. In fact, I did not feel that a woman wrote this at all. It sounded to me like a reasonable, intelligent and informed man wrote the editorial, in an attempt to identify and acknowledge the unfairness of a mandatory draft (for men only). Further, when you stated

“ Women are naturally good homemakers, teachers, and caretakers for children. It would be unfair to the children if the nurturing care which he or she calls their mother is fighting a war. Women keep this country running with supplies and a patriotic generation of youth while the men are defending our great country. In some ways that is the women's job during times of war.”

it leads me to believe that your views are outdated, and need revision.

Cortney said...

Response to Stephanie

Stephanie,

I think that your perception of the Women in the Draft editorial was very accurate in many areas. The writer does have the ability to make you see his point of view, and I think that you were able to understand his ideas. The point about women in Israel joining the military is important, not as a way to show the U.S. that we need to “keep up” with other countries, but as a reminder that we as a country need to be as progressive as some other countries are in the way that they draft for their militaries. Overall, I think that you did a very good job on this assignment.

Gregorus said...

Mr. Holt,

I can think of one way that including women in the draft is a reason against it. It sounds like if we can't do it fairly, we shouldn't do it at all. If you include women in the draft, it would be fair, but some people think it would create more problems. However, if you don't include them, other people think it's unfair, so the only way to satisfy all of those people would be to discontinue the draft.

Gregorus said...

Greg Baugher
Pages 22-23

Part I - Analyze Editorial

I believe the anonymous auhtor of this article is a man; I also think he is very supportive of the military. It sounds to me like he feels it is very unfair that only men have to be drafted, and that the system needs changes to ensure strong armed forces.
He keeps apealing to the audience by making the point that by having both sexes eligible for conscription the military would be stronger. He addresses the subject with many facts. He shows examples of other countries that draft women. He also points out that women wouldn't have to be in comabt by saying "the military decides where each erson will be placed, including less physical jobs."
I also get the feelingthat this writer thinks if you don't serve, then you're not doing your patriotic duty to your country.

Part II - My Response

Anonymous Writer,

I read your article and agree with you on many of your points. A strong army is necessary, but I'm not sure changing the draft rules would be necessary.
The draft has been in place since Revolutionary Times, and it has worked well. From gathering militias to fight against the Redcoats, to forming forces that would land on Normandy, the draft has proved its usefullness in times of need. However, it has done that without the need of women in the draft.
In my opinion, a women is needed to keep the house together while the man is serving. Now, I'm not syaing women shouldn't be able to volunteer, but I don't think taking women from their civilian lives is necessary. Besides, women can contribute to the war effort from here in the US, even if they don't serve. During World War II, women worked in factories, collected supplies, and many other things for the men serving abroad.
Yes, I agree that the draft is a great thing to have when it is needed, but the last draft was ended in 1973. Since then, we have gone through one conflict, and are fighting another without the use of the draft. I think this shows many people feel the need to volunteer, and the military doesn't need to draft more. If that's true, why would we need to expand the draft pool to include women?

Danny said...

Cortney,
I understand what you are saying, and you are right, it could be a man saying this statement. However, what you said about some of my quotes makes me wonder how much the role of women in our country has changed a lot in the past few decades. Might this be leading to a brighter future or a greater downfall? Anyways, I understand what you are trying to get around in your response to the statement about women in the draft. I still don't agree with you, but I understand your views.
-Danny

Danny said...

Jenny,
I read your response to the activity about the two colleges and I really think you understand the two different personae that are being demonstrated in each solicitation. You were able to respond accurately to the questions asked and it was easy to follow. Good work, Jenny.
-Danny Holland

Danny said...

Danny Holland
Pg. 26

Persona:
Franklin College's persona is very personal. The way that they wrote their solicitation gave the message to the reader, "We want you here and this is why." They carefully pinpointed many issues that students would normally have at a college that would not affect them at Franklin, such as "caring professors", "small classes", and a "family-like" campus. They want to display a persona of fun as well as academic achievement and knowledge.
Arizona State University's persona is more "typical college" but a step higher and with more quality. Instead of naming specific graduates who became renowned from their college, ASU revealed positive statistics such as a 3.36 average GPA for high school, and 132 National Merit scholars. This persona may intimidate some, but it might drive others to want to go here because they know "the statistics" say that they will be successful.

Appeal:
Both Franklin and ASU appeal to students looking for a quality education without putting a dent in their wallet. They both want the reader to know that their education is the finest, through specific examples of famous inventors and founders (Franklin) or positive statistics of achievement (ASU).
Franklin appeals to the reader in a more friendly kind of way. They ensure the reader that they will be successful at Franklin by specifically naming renowned alumni such as the person who invented Doritos, and the man who directed "The Sound of Music." This may be more important to the reader than just numbers and statistics. The reader knows that if they go to this school, not only will their experience be great with a small-town campus and close access to the city, but that their need for a job will be secured through many internship programs that are available. This type of support as well as caring professors appeals to the reader in a very positive way. Franklin appeals to those that want a great education as well as having fun.
ASU appeals to the reader as an opportunity to be part of an enormous body of talented and knowledge-hungry students as well as being able to concentrate in a "beautiful campus combining desert and tropical landscape." This solicitation appeals to the reader as a serious campus where learning and achieving are top priority. They also want the reader to know that they aren't “icing the cake” with vague descriptions like "small classes"; they gave specific data. This may be important to some students when making the decision on which colleges they should apply to.
In general, these two colleges are considered "best buys" and terrific centers to learn in. Something that needs to be realized is that the needs of someone looking for a college differ from person to person. Some do not feel comfortable at a large campus and would rather go to Franklin, while others want the "real" college life and be alongside many others who want to achieve as much as they do, which they would find at ASU. Everyone is different and the differing personae found in these two college descriptions could really help a student make the right choice of school.

Danny Holland said...

Danny Holland
Pg. 26

Persona:
Franklin College's persona is very personal. The way that they wrote their solicitation gave the message to the reader, "We want you here and this is why." They carefully pinpointed many issues that students would normally have at a college that would not affect them at Franklin, such as "caring professors", "small classes", and a "family-like" campus. They want to display a persona of fun as well as academic achievement and knowledge.
Arizona State University's persona is more "typical college" but a step higher and with more quality. Instead of naming specific graduates who became renowned from their college, ASU revealed positive statistics such as a 3.36 average GPA for high school, and 132 National Merit scholars. This persona may intimidate some, but it might drive others to want to go here because they know "the statistics" say that they will be successful.

Appeal:
Both Franklin and ASU appeal to students looking for a quality education without putting a dent in their wallet. They both want the reader to know that their education is the finest, through specific examples of famous inventors and founders (Franklin) or positive statistics of achievement (ASU).
Franklin appeals to the reader in a more friendly kind of way. They ensure the reader that they will be successful at Franklin by specifically naming renowned alumni such as the person who invented Doritos, and the man who directed "The Sound of Music." This may be more important to the reader than just numbers and statistics. The reader knows that if they go to this school, not only will their experience be great with a small-town campus and close access to the city, but that their need for a job will be secured through many internship programs that are available. This type of support as well as caring professors appeals to the reader in a very positive way. Franklin appeals to those that want a great education as well as having fun.
ASU appeals to the reader as an opportunity to be part of an enormous body of talented and knowledge-hungry students as well as being able to concentrate in a "beautiful campus combining desert and tropical landscape." This solicitation appeals to the reader as a serious campus where learning and achieving are top priority. They also want the reader to know that they aren't “icing the cake” with vague descriptions like "small classes"; they gave specific data. This may be important to some students when making the decision on which colleges they should apply to.
In general, these two colleges are considered "best buys" and terrific centers to learn in. Something that needs to be realized is that the needs of someone looking for a college differ from person to person. Some do not feel comfortable at a large campus and would rather go to Franklin, while others want the "real" college life and be alongside many others who want to achieve as much as they do, which they would find at ASU. Everyone is different and the differing personae found in these two college descriptions could really help a student make the right choice of school.

CristineDeLosSantos said...

Cristine De Los Santos (PG 22)

Analysis
In this article, the author is trying to convince the reader into thinking that what he says is right. He argues that women in other countries like Israel are drafted and that if they are doing it then so should we. He also expresses his thoughts in saying that it is unfair for only men to be drafted when it is one nation and that the battles should be fought by both women as well as men. In other words it is unfair that men do all the work when women are part of the nation too. There are, though, some limitations that can’t allow women to be drafted. One of them being that some women might be to weak to be in battles. In argument to this limitation the author states that there are other jobs in the military that involve less strength and that both women as well as men could be placed in these less physical jobs. Towards the end of the article the author can finally convince you into agreeing that it would be better for the nation to draft women because the military will only better itself.




Response
In my opinion I would agree with the author of this article. I think that it is unfair that men are forced into combat and that women are not. Some people may argue about this because sometimes people may think that women have more to loose then men. For example a woman may have a child and if she is drafted then it would be a danger to her family because she would be going through the risk of dying or getting seriously injured. This can also happen to a man and I think that it is just as painful to a women as it is to a man to go through this situation. I think that both men and women should be treated exactly the same. A women could be capable of doing the same job as a man and if for any reason she can’t because she is weaker, there are always less physical jobs she could do. Drafting women can also be an advantage to the nation because there would be a bigger percentage of people to choose from to fight in battles and in wars. For all these reasons I completely agree with the author of this article.

CristineDeLosSantos said...

Cristine De Los Santos (PG 26-27)

Persona-
-Franklin College tries to convince the reader by stating how the Doritos snack inventor, the director of The Sound of Music, and the founder of the Save The Children Foundation, all graduated from there. This will automatically persuade the reader because it could make them think that if they go to that college they will turn out just as successful. It also tries to convince the reader by telling them that it is a “best buy”.
-Arizona State University uses the fact that they have 95 undergraduate majors, to try to persuade the reader. Arizona approaches the reader differently by saying that it is a beautiful campus unlike Franklin College.

Appeals-
-Franklin College appeals to students by saying how important people in today’s society have graduated from there like the inventor of Doritos, directors and founders. It then goes on to saying that it has great opportunities for athletics that it has other extra-curricular activities. Saying that it is a warm and friendly campus is also very appealing to students because obviously someone would want to go somewhere where they are treated good and with respect. Its location would grab attention because a student would want to be able to be in a places where they could entertain themselves as well as going to a “great College”.
-Arizona State University appeals to students by listing statistics. Also they are basically saying they are the best because they have 95 undergraduate majors. By saying how The Student Guide to America’s Best College Buys has recognized their University one of the 100 best buys in the USA, would convince a student into going their because it is cheaper and a great college.

Danny Holland said...

Danny Holland
Pg. 26

Persona:
Franklin College's persona is very personal. The way that they wrote their solicitation gave the message to the reader, "We want you here and this is why." They carefully pinpointed many issues that students would normally have at a college that would not affect them at Franklin, such as "caring professors", "small classes", and a "family-like" campus. They want to display a persona of fun as well as academic achievement and knowledge.
Arizona State University's persona is more "typical college" but a step higher and with more quality. Instead of naming specific graduates who became renowned from their college, ASU revealed positive statistics such as a 3.36 average GPA for high school, and 132 National Merit scholars. This persona may intimidate some, but it might drive others to want to go here because they know "the statistics" say that they will be successful.

Appeal:
Both Franklin and ASU appeal to students looking for a quality education without putting a dent in their wallet. They both want the reader to know that their education is the finest, through specific examples of famous inventors and founders (Franklin) or positive statistics of achievement (ASU).
Franklin appeals to the reader in a more friendly kind of way. They ensure the reader that they will be successful at Franklin by specifically naming renowned alumni such as the person who invented Doritos, and the man who directed "The Sound of Music." This may be more important to the reader than just numbers and statistics. The reader knows that if they go to this school, not only will their experience be great with a small-town campus and close access to the city, but that their need for a job will be secured through many internship programs that are available. This type of support as well as caring professors appeals to the reader in a very positive way. Franklin appeals to those that want a great education as well as having fun.
ASU appeals to the reader as an opportunity to be part of an enormous body of talented and knowledge-hungry students as well as being able to concentrate in a "beautiful campus combining desert and tropical landscape." This solicitation appeals to the reader as a serious campus where learning and achieving are top priority. They also want the reader to know that they aren't “icing the cake” with vague descriptions like "small classes"; they gave specific data. This may be important to some students when making the decision on which colleges they should apply to.
In general, these two colleges are considered "best buys" and terrific centers to learn in. Something that needs to be realized is that the needs of someone looking for a college differ from person to person. Some do not feel comfortable at a large campus and would rather go to Franklin, while others want the "real" college life and be alongside many others who want to achieve as much as they do, which they would find at ASU. Everyone is different and the differing personae found in these two college descriptions could really help a student make the right choice of school.

Danny Holland said...

Danny Holland
Pg. 26

Persona:
Franklin College's persona is very personal. The way that they wrote their solicitation gave the message to the reader, "We want you here and this is why." They carefully pinpointed many issues that students would normally have at a college that would not affect them at Franklin, such as "caring professors", "small classes", and a "family-like" campus. They want to display a persona of fun as well as academic achievement and knowledge.
Arizona State University's persona is more "typical college" but a step higher and with more quality. Instead of naming specific graduates who became renowned from their college, ASU revealed positive statistics such as a 3.36 average GPA for high school, and 132 National Merit scholars. This persona may intimidate some, but it might drive others to want to go here because they know "the statistics" say that they will be successful.

Appeal:
Both Franklin and ASU appeal to students looking for a quality education without putting a dent in their wallet. They both want the reader to know that their education is the finest, through specific examples of famous inventors and founders (Franklin) or positive statistics of achievement (ASU).
Franklin appeals to the reader in a more friendly kind of way. They ensure the reader that they will be successful at Franklin by specifically naming renowned alumni such as the person who invented Doritos, and the man who directed "The Sound of Music." This may be more important to the reader than just numbers and statistics. The reader knows that if they go to this school, not only will their experience be great with a small-town campus and close access to the city, but that their need for a job will be secured through many internship programs that are available. This type of support as well as caring professors appeals to the reader in a very positive way. Franklin appeals to those that want a great education as well as having fun.
ASU appeals to the reader as an opportunity to be part of an enormous body of talented and knowledge-hungry students as well as being able to concentrate in a "beautiful campus combining desert and tropical landscape." This solicitation appeals to the reader as a serious campus where learning and achieving are top priority. They also want the reader to know that they aren't “icing the cake” with vague descriptions like "small classes"; they gave specific data. This may be important to some students when making the decision on which colleges they should apply to.
In general, these two colleges are considered "best buys" and terrific centers to learn in. Something that needs to be realized is that the needs of someone looking for a college differ from person to person. Some do not feel comfortable at a large campus and would rather go to Franklin, while others want the "real" college life and be alongside many others who want to achieve as much as they do, which they would find at ASU. Everyone is different and the differing personae found in these two college descriptions could really help a student make the right choice of school.

Stephanie said...

So, I posted a comment addressed to Danny yesterday but it's not up here so I'm thinking maybe my computer went loopy on me? Maybe not? I'm not sure but I want to make sure you get it so let me try again...

Danny,
I think the author of this article is a man, not a woman. I interpreted the writer of this letter to be a disgruntled man rather than a woman feminist.
The writer states that "running out of manpower out a crucial point in a war would be disastrous". I can say that I, as a woman, probably wouldn't use "manpower" as my word of choice. Maybe "power" or "people willing to fight"...something along those lines.
I think if a woman had been writing this letter the tone would have been different. I think the writer seems frustrated and almost mad that "one sex has to fight for the rights of both". I think a women probably would have been more determined and less accusatory.



(Hopefully if my other comment didn't get to the cyberworld this one did.)

Danny Holland said...

Stephanie,
I thought that your views on the statement about women in the draft were very well-thought and easy to understand. I also did this exercise and interpreted it a different way. You, as well as many other people who replied to this activity, believed that this article was written by a man who believed that women should have the same responsibilities as men. I, however, took the approach that the original author of this article was a woman who believed that women should have equal rights and responsibilities as everyone else. I commend you for your view, even if it is different than mine.
-Danny Holland

brittanymurphy said...

Brittany Murphy
College Solicitation Activity
(page 26)


Franklin College
*Persona*
-Franklin College seems to be showing themselves as the kind of school where you can acheive the "whole college experience". By pointing out aspects such as "excellent shopping, cutural, and entertainment options" and "outstanding opportunities to participate in athletics and extra-curricular activities" they reveal that their college would be ideal if the entire transition college entails is just as much of a priority to you as the actual academic part of college. All of this shows that the college seems to be a well-rounded school in many different areas.
-Franklin College also states that they have "been providing extraordinary educational and career opportunities for more than 160 years". This creates an image of successful dependability to ensure your goals and dreams can be attained by attending their college. It's sort of like they are saying, "Hey, we've been doing this for over 160 years. You can trust us, we know what we are doing."
-All of these reasons also seem to sort of apply to the Appeals category, so I'll discuss them again there.

*Appeals*
-Franklin's opening, or their "hook statement" challenges the reader by asking what the inventor of Doritos, the director of The Sound Of Music, and the founder of the Save the Children Foundation all have in common. Obviously, none of the three really have any similarities to eachother whatsover. However, once it is revealed that the said group of people all attended Franklin College, they are automatically appealing to a broad audience. In this case any and all people who either enjoy chips, musicals, charities, or a healthy combination of the three. Generally, the advertisment is trying to prove that there is something for everyone at their college.
-"Small classes, a faculty that loves teaching, a warm and friendly campus, and outstanding opportunities to participatein atheletics and extra-curricular activities","Small town atmosphere","Excellent shopping, cultural and entertainment options","Top quality education", and a "best buy". All of these points made by the author further promote the fact that their college is one that anybody could find enjoyable because of the wide varities of activities in and around the college.
-The author also some of the three appeals to try and persuade the reader to consider their college. The quote I used above in the Persona section about the school providing educational and career opportunities for over 160 years applies to this section as well. Advertising their school's history is an example of offering evidence that the author, or rhetor, is credible, which is ethos. Pathos was also used when describing the school's atmosphere (quoted above as well) by drawing on some of the reader's memories or emotions of similar events.


Arizona State University
*Persona*
-ASU, unlike Franklin, seemed to focus around only one aspect of their school: academics. Almost every statement about this university talks about their academically strong students. "95 undergraduate majors","Outstanding career and graduate study opportunities","High School GPA of 3.36". All of these show the strong appreciation the university has for academics.
*Appeal*
-For having such academics as such a top priority at ASU, the audience that is being appealed to is one that is made up of students that are primarily academically-oriented. However, the author does try to appeal to smaller "sub-audiences" within the main audience by offering their "95 undergraduate majors" which attracts many different academic interests.
-Another method of appealing their target audience is by displaying the school's accomplisments and recognitions such as the "132 National Merit Scholars, 12th best among all universities in the USA" and the recognition by The Student Guide to America's Best College Buys for their "academic quality and affordable prices".

Danny Holland said...

Danny Holland
Pg. 26

Persona:
Franklin College's persona is very personal. The way that they wrote their solicitation gave the message to the reader, "We want you here and this is why." They carefully pinpointed many issues that students would normally have at a college that would not affect them at Franklin, such as "caring professors", "small classes", and a "family-like" campus. They want to display a persona of fun as well as academic achievement and knowledge.
Arizona State University's persona is more "typical college" but a step higher and with more quality. Instead of naming specific graduates who became renowned from their college, ASU revealed positive statistics such as a 3.36 average GPA for high school, and 132 National Merit scholars. This persona may intimidate some, but it might drive others to want to go here because they know "the statistics" say that they will be successful.

Appeal:
Both Franklin and ASU appeal to students looking for a quality education without putting a dent in their wallet. They both want the reader to know that their education is the finest, through specific examples of famous inventors and founders (Franklin) or positive statistics of achievement (ASU).
Franklin appeals to the reader in a more friendly kind of way. They ensure the reader that they will be successful at Franklin by specifically naming renowned alumni such as the person who invented Doritos, and the man who directed "The Sound of Music." This may be more important to the reader than just numbers and statistics. The reader knows that if they go to this school, not only will their experience be great with a small-town campus and close access to the city, but that their need for a job will be secured through many internship programs that are available. This type of support as well as caring professors appeals to the reader in a very positive way. Franklin appeals to those that want a great education as well as having fun.
ASU appeals to the reader as an opportunity to be part of an enormous body of talented and knowledge-hungry students as well as being able to concentrate in a "beautiful campus combining desert and tropical landscape." This solicitation appeals to the reader as a serious campus where learning and achieving are top priority. They also want the reader to know that they aren't “icing the cake” with vague descriptions like "small classes"; they gave specific data. This may be important to some students when making the decision on which colleges they should apply to.
In general, these two colleges are considered "best buys" and terrific centers to learn in. Something that needs to be realized is that the needs of someone looking for a college differ from person to person. Some do not feel comfortable at a large campus and would rather go to Franklin, while others want the "real" college life and be alongside many others who want to achieve as much as they do, which they would find at ASU. Everyone is different and the differing personae found in these two college descriptions could really help a student make the right choice of school.

Unknown said...

Assignment: Artifacts of the community
I’m currently in VA Beach, so I thought it would be interesting to do this activity on a community not familiar to my own, and one geared to a different type of people as my own.

The artifacts here are conveyed almost specifically toward tourists. Looking around all I see are advertisements for local events that would draw a large crowd of non-locals. Specifically, I see a lot of signs as directions to large attractions. Similarly, I saw a banner advertising for a band; “Free of charge/fun for the whole family,” it reads. On every corner there is a box containing coupons for local, seasonal stores. Bright and flashy, everything is geared toward attracting the attention of those with pockets lined with money. It is quite obvious that the goal of every shining, neon sign is to trap tourists like a moth to a flame.

brittanymurphy said...

Brittany Murphy
Including Women in the Draft Activity
(page 22)


Analyzation of Editorial
When I read this article the first time through I honestly imagined a young, hippie-like, woman in her college dorm writing this article, furiously typing away on her laptop. But then, after reading the article through a couple more times, I began to beleive differently. The persona the author seems to display is a man who cleary feels as if the exclusion of females in the military draft is outdated and unfair. He catces the reader's attention by, in a sense, indirectly questioning their patriotism. By making statements such as "It's unfair that only men are forced into combat" the author tries to convince the reader that in order to obtain a closer reach to gender equality, it is necessary for both men AND women to be held legally responsible to defend their country. However, the tone author just seems to come off as a whining child.


Response to Editorial

Anonymous Writer,

In a world where the rights and responsibilities of men and women are becoming more and more equal, why shouldn't women be included in the military draft? My response is simply this: Why fix something that doesn't need to be fixed? The policy of only men being included in the draft hasn't caused any problems so far.
Traditionally, males were the ones that would go out to war and defend the country, or go out to work and provide for their family. But now, more and more females are volunteering in the armed forces and making their own livings without the need to depend on males. Even though these aspects have been changing over time, you cannot deny biology; women are still women and men are still men. Each gender is "biologically programmed" so to say with several completely different personality traits. Men instinctively are fighters and providers, women instinctively are caretakers and homemakers. Different personalities can overtake these biological instincts; some men could be more comfortable taking care of the children while some women could be more comfortable out on the front lines.
However, if you are to question the "fairness" of the forcing of men to participate in the draft, then aren't you questioning the "fairness" of the draft itself? If it is unfair, as the author stated many times, for men to be forced to participate in the draft, then wouldn't it be unfair to force anyone to participate in the draft?



***I'm not entirely confident that my reply to the editorial was completely clear. I'm almost sure I made the point I meant to but... I've been awake for almost 20 hours straight now... :/ So if you have any questions or comments or something feel free to bombard me. I won't take it too personally. :]***

brittanymurphy said...

Greg,
I really liked your reply to the Women in the Draft Editorial. I enjoyed reading it because I agree wholeheartedly with what you had to say. I also really liked how you knew alot more of the history behind the draft and you incorporated that into your response. You did a really wonderful job!
-Brittany!

brittanymurphy said...

Danny,
Although I disagree with you on the gender of the anonymous writer, I do agree with you on many of the points you made in your reply to article. You made very clear, precise points and I was completely hooked while reading your reply.
Also, it made me laugh because I can just imagine the tone of voice you were using while writing this and it just so you.
Really great job!
-Brittany!

Rhen Brooks said...

Danny,

I agree with you in almost every aspect of your response to Including Women in the Draft. I agree that only men should be put into the draft, and also that women are good in the home aspects of life.

Great job!
Rhen Brooks

Rhen Brooks said...

Brittany,

I like how you started off your post with a more catchy type of style. Good job!

I also agree with your points about the draft not having any problem so far, and since it hasn't caused any problems why change it?

Rhen Brooks

Rhen Brooks said...

Rhen Brooks (PG 22)

The Statement Analyzed-

In the article an anonymous person explains how it is unfair for men to be able to be drafted into the military , but not women. When this article is read, I can imagine a feminist young teenage girl who is angry for the equality of men and women. The persona will only really catch two different groups of people though: other feminists, and patriotic citizens.
This woman believes that both men and women serve and equal role in the military.


Response to Persona:

I've read your article about including women in the military draft.I have some points that I agree and disagree with. With all respect to women I think that a job at home is best for them. Looking over kids, housework, and teaching are just few of the oppurtunities. I don't see why women have to be drafted into the military if there is no problems so far with them not being able to.
I agree that women would want to be patriotic and serve their country too, just like men. But in times of war, when drafting would take place we would need women to take over the jobs left behind. This is a article where I am left on the fence. I agree with the patriotism of women. But in the feminist outlook I don't see why the women should be angry, when overall staying back in the States is serving their country just as well. But if enlisting into the army is what you long for, so be it.

Rhen Brooks said...

Rhen Brooks(PG 26)
College Solicitation Letters


Persona

-Both of the colleges seem like they are excellent. The first college, Franklin College, shows that the school is stable and smart, since it's been providing educational and career oppurtuniteis for more than 160 years. The second college, Arizona State University, shows off their knowlege by having "95 undergaduate majors, many of which were recognized as the finest in the nation." Both school would seem like a good choice for any person looking for a successful life.


Appeals

-The First College(Franklin), would appeal to any person who would like a quiet, comfy pace to relax. They would have many activites to do that inclue shopping and entertainment options. Also, the college is offered at an affordable price, so it can be attended by many.
-The Second College(ASU), would appeal to any person who would be looking for an affordable college too. This college would appeal to students who have a career set mind, since it gives many options for careers and graduate study oppurtunities after their schooling is done.

-Both colleges offer excellent education, and an affordable price to get it. They are both in great settings for a student to have fun. But the main purpose for both colleges is the gaining of education and thats what brings them alike in charecteristics.

Anonymous said...

Cecilia Bulzomi
Including Women in The Draft: Page 22
Analysis ~
This article was clearly written by a man who thought that it was unfair that men are drafted and women are not. The beginning was too choppy it didnt key you in on what they were going to talk about very well. The rest was better but still doesnt sound together. Towards the end when the author is talking about the physical aspects of thier argument they could have put it all together and made it easier on the reader.

Personal Response~
Dear Anonymous,
I don't agree with what this article is saying just because of how you convey the facts. You have them so biased that you havn't researched exactly WHY women are not drafted. The reason women aren't drafted is because of a bill that was not passed that would have given women all the same rights as men, including being drafted. That is pretty much the sole reason that women are excluded from the draft. Not because of health reasons or because they are not physically able.

Anonymous said...

Cecilia Bulzomi
College Articles Page 26:
The persona of the articles persuasive. They are trying to appeal to the readers interests to make them choose that college. In the first article they are showing the successful people who graduated from that specific college. The second one appeals more to what the reader would want from their college experience.

Anonymous said...

Stephanie~
I really liked your post on Including Women In The Draft it seemed really well thought and powerful. You really must have out a lot of time and effort into that.

Anonymous said...

Jenny~
Your post on the Draft article was GREAT. From the first line you caught my attention. You are a really powerful writer keep up the good work!

Samantha Corker said...

Samantha Corker- pg. 26

Part 1-
The persona of the Franklin College letter is inviting and warm. The writer focuses on both the academic and extra-curricular activities that interest the rising freshman. The Franklin College letter tells it’s readers about their “excellent shopping, cultural and entertainment options” as well as being “nationally recognized internship, leadership, and professional development programs” Putting in both these statements made the college come across as fun and in touch with what the new comers want.

The ASU letter creates a persona that is forceful and direct. In the letter the boast of their “high school grade point average of 3.36” but they also tell about the opportunities awaiting the potential students and convince them that the choice is theirs the make, all the while using facts to show the reader the author’s point of view.


Part 2-
The Franklin College letter opens up by listing successful graduates from their school, “the inventor of the Doritos snack chip, the director of the classic movie The sound of music, and the founder of the save the children foundation”, these are names that appeal to people because they are well known and popular. Having them list these names gives the reader hope that if they go there maybe one day their company or name will be well known too.

The Arizona State University letter is appealing because it is direct and to the point. It gives potential students information needed to decide if ASU is right for them and doesn’t put up anything but information about opportunities presented at the university.

Samantha Corker said...

Samantha Corker- pg 22
Including Women in the Draft


Statement analyzed-
The author seemed very direct and very informed on this issue. She seems like a feminist who appeals to the audience with the promotion of unity and equality. When the paper starts out you can immediately see how the writer feels toward the subject. Also, when she goes to state that other countries have already started to draft their women, it appeals to the audience because America always tries to be a head of all of its competition.

Response-

Dear Anonymous,

I read your essay about women in the draft and I agreed with you on a few of the things, but over all it’s a little scary for me to consider. You are completely right about how in times of need we are going to need soldiers. You are also right about how it’s unfair that only men have to fight and the way you stated that by saying “it’s unfair that one sex can be forced to fight the battle for both.” It really made me think, but America doesn’t adjust to change well. Despite the fact that the army would take care of the female soldiers and their families, I doubt many women would live their kids. Men have a hard enough time, and mothers are said to have a stronger bond with their children. Let along the fact that women and men have different body types and different body behaviors, many medical problems could happen to women out in the task force that couldn’t be solved over seas. Plus many bad things could happen to women if they are captured by enemies and are unable to defend themselves. Over all I think that America doesn’t need women in the draft. We have enough soldiers volunteering everyday that they don’t really to draft women. Besides if women want to be in the military they can still volunteer.

Sincerely,
Samantha Corker

Samantha Corker said...

Stephanie,
In your comments from INCLUDING WOMEN IN THE DRAFT, I really liked your insight in your response. It had alot of information that I hadn't thought of and it was very well written. Great job!

Samantha Corker said...

Shelby,
I really think you understood the assignment in the college letter activity. You did a great job at identifying what appeals to the audience and explaining the persona.

Mr. Holt said...

Christine: do you really think that the inventor of Doritos is an "important person," or are they trying to convey a different attitude and appeal to a different kind of student?

CristineDeLosSantos said...

Mr. Holt,
I think that they are trying to appeal to appeal to a different kind of student that might think that the inventor of Doritos is an important person.